two conversations converging on a theme

[wisdomeagle]

1. [femslash in the 'gate fandom]
Ari: If you don't like Sam/Janet, well, you don't like Sam/Janet and don't have too many other options. I mean, Sam/Catherine, or Sam/Cassie, or Cassie/Allie...
Girlfriend: Well, that last one might just be your personal kink.
Ari: *thinks* ... And the others are?
Girlfriend: They actually had scenes together!

2. [West Wing]
Ari: Which girl is prettiest [of Mandy, CJ, Donna]?
Dad: ...[Donna]. [Mandy] has too much makeup, and [CJ] is too old. (Well, not too old for me, but you know.)
Ari: *speechless and kind of spluttering*

Comments

[rydra_wong]

Sam/Vala?

Vala could put her in touch with her long-suppressed Inner Wickedness, and then the two of them could take over the world and steal everything and wear tiaras!

Although Vala might insist on keeping Daniel around as a toy.

[azarsuerte.livejournal.com]

And Sam would have a problem with this why? ;-)

[rydra_wong]

Oh, I didn't say she would .... [/innocent]

[azarsuerte.livejournal.com]

*grin*

[wisdomeagle]

Mmm, sex. :)

[rydra_wong]

And IMHO, there's just something about the SG-1 writers' apparent belief that there can only be one woman on the team at a time which demands retaliatory fic in which Sam and Vala get together and leave everyone else in the dust.

(Vala would totally think Sam was just another boring straitlaced SGC person, until Sam took pity on Daniel and provided distraction by taking Vala off-base. On her motorcycle. Then Vala's eyes would get big and shiny and she would start smiling with too many teeth ...)

[azarsuerte.livejournal.com]

Girlfriend: They actually had scenes together!

*snicker* Obviously she never spent time in Forever Knight fandom, where actually meeting is not a requirement for being eternal soulmates. ;-)

[wisdomeagle]

Heh.

Well, of course never having met is not usually a deterrent to us shipping anything, but girlfriend was simply pointing out that the never-met pairings are even more self-indulgent than my normal pairings. Which is saying something.

[scrollgirl.livejournal.com]

I mean, Sam/Catherine, or Sam/Cassie, or Cassie/Allie...

*snickers* You do realise that the actress who plays Allie is the same girl who plays 16-year-old Cassie, right? So really, it's not so much femslash as self-love. Hee!!!

I don't actually think any of the WW girls are exceptionally pretty (well, Bonnie and Ginger are, and Cathy's kind of cute) but I prefer CJ's look over Mandy or Donna. But CJ would be too old for me too. It's probably kind of sexist but I don't usually find 40+ women attractive the way I'd find 40+ men attractive.

[scrollgirl.livejournal.com]

Also, there's a lot more room for femslash in SGA than in SG-1. Weir/Teyla may not be as popular as Sheppard/McKay but there's still quite a lot (comparatively) and Teyla/Heightmeyer is a growing trend too. And there's, y'know, actual canon and scenes together and such. *g*

[wisdomeagle]

Huh. I don't actually think that's true. I mean, I'm not really a big Sam/Janet shipper, and prior to the existence of 'Lantis, I wrote Sam/Catherine, some Sam/Cassie (with Cassie over 18), and Sam/blonde!Weir, and had seriously considered things like Sam/Linnea (Destroyer of Worlds -- oh, in my universe, they went off together perfecting naq bombs and poisons and ended up destroying EVERYTHING omg.)

Anyhow, I do take your point that with two girls in the main cast, SGA is twice as girly as SG-1, but I'm pretty meh on all the possible SGA f/f pairings (unless you count Sam/brunette!Weir).

Err. But I guess what I really meant to say was, in SG-1, if you don't like Sam, you're pretty much out of luck with femslash. :/

[scrollgirl.livejournal.com]

Heh. I meant that fandom at large is more likely to femslash in SGA than in SG-1. I know you've got plenty of femslash pairings *g* But leaving aside Sam/Janet, which is the biggest femslash pairing for the SG universe, the next biggest are Weir/Teyla and Teyla/Heightmeyer.

Of course there's some Sam/Weir (both blonde and brunette), and I could totally be skewing the numbers because I'm not in a ton of comms, but I think Teyla/Heightmeyer is the more popular femslash pairing. Is there any Sam/Vala?

[wisdomeagle]

Okay, fair 'nuff. And I just realized there's a really easy way to check for some general numbers.

Per WraithBait:
Weir/Teyla - 25
Teyla/Kate - 8

Per Area52:
Sam/Weir - 4
*gives up* For some bizarre reason Area52 no longer thinks that knowing how many stories of a particular pairing there are would be fascinating to anyone. But there are a lot of Sam/Janet stories, oh yes.

There are also a lot of various Sam/other stories and some Janet/other stories.

Hmm! I don't know what my point is. I don't know if Teyla/Kate will be the Next Big Thing or not, or Sam/Vala, or Sam/Weir or Teyla/Vala or whatever. I think except for Sam/Janet and Teyla/Weir, the rest of those pairings are going to be written by individuals with our own kinks rather than have massive (or even miniscule) movements in their favor. I know that my love of Sam/Catherine is all about my May-December kink, and I own that.

Although the more I think about this... everyone knows the slash in SG-1 is Jack/Daniel and in SGA is McShep, and that doesn't prevent those pairings from being exceptionally, insanely popular. And whenever I try to think about these things, I get all confused and slightly upset, so I think I'll just let my icon do the talking, as I so often do.

[gvambat.livejournal.com]

Someone should ship blonde!Wier/brunette!Weir. It'd be strange. (*very carefully includes an e, because otherwise it'd be stranger*)

[wisdomeagle]

That's so awesome. I love you, roommate-of-mine. :)

[gvambat.livejournal.com]

:p This is a good thing. :)

[wisdomeagle]

it's truuuuuue! Only, boring. Because as everyone knows, femslash is boring. (Sorry. This will NEVER GET OLD. :p)

[gvambat.livejournal.com]

Oh, of course. Boring. *nods seriously*

*is all boring and stuff*

[wisdomeagle]

You do realise that the actress who plays Allie is the same girl who plays 16-year-old Cassie, right?

...there's a reason to ship them other than the fact that they're played by the same actress? No, seriously, that's why the pairing. It was when I was in a phase where I shipped like whoa various pairs of chars played by the same actors...

It's probably kind of sexist but I don't usually find 40+ women attractive the way I'd find 40+ men attractive.

... I do!

But then, you knew that. :p

[rilkeanheart.livejournal.com]

Donna might be more conventionally pretty to most people, but CJ is by far the sexiest. Her attitude and her personality sometimes just make me go *guh*... You know? And sometimes, her face just glows so beautifully. I definitely share your CJ crush.

[wisdomeagle]

Oh, I agree! And really, I don't think CJ is all that pretty -- she's just so overwhelmingly sexy and attractive (in the strong sense of the word in that... I'm just utterly compelled and drawn to her in every way) that it's... okay. You know. I'm kind of ridiculous about this. But I love her SO DAMN MUCH. :)

[ct]

Hey :) I was reading my friendsfriends list and saw this post, and couldn't resist commenting. Only got as far as friending you before I had to leave to go out though. Sorry about that...

Anyway, there's always Sam/Nirrti. They're both scientists at heart. I'm sure they'd have plenty to talk about if they can only get past the whole evil-goa'uld-who-tried-to-kill-her thing.

[wisdomeagle]

:)

Hi! Welcome to the flist! I've already talked in far too great detail about myself, but hello again, and yay for dyketastic, 'ships with everyone Sam Carter. :)

[sangerin.livejournal.com]

I want to show your dad the s5 episode where CJ's outfit makes me completely die. More to the point, I want to show you that episode.

~dies of CJ~