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Yep, still queer.

I identify as a lesbian because I am a female person who's physically, emotionally, sexually, romantically attracted to other female people.

I identify as queer because my sexuality is not normal, typical, normative, or standard.

I identify as a dyke because I choose to reclaim words that have been used against me. I am not a bulldyke or this thing you call "butch," but I have been called a dyke, and the word is mine.

I identify as femme because, comparatively, I am. I don't do a lot of intentional work to construct my gender, but what shakes out is a feminine femme who doesn't care about clothes or makeup or her own appearance much at all. I am and can be attracted to both butch and femme women.

This year, I am no longer identifying as sekretily bisexual, because, while I am theoretically capable of being attracted to male people, it hasn't happened in awhile, and I feel it's more important to acknowledge my lesbianism (and yes, especially in a generation where many, many of my peers identify as bi) than my potential attraction to male people.

My self-identity is more than a matter of statistics, ~13 female people vs 2 male in eight years. My self-identity is about more than the girl I'm dating now or the girls I've dated in the past. My identity, my sexuality, has defined my life, the people and events that have been most important to me, for my entire teenaged experience. I identify as lesbian because attending a church that was not queer-friendly would be a deal-breaker for me these days. I identify as lesbian because I can't forget middle school or high school. I identify as lesbian because I can. I identify as lesbian because I can't not. I identify as a lesbian because of the faces and bodies that make me take notice, because of the fear in my gut when I tell someone I have a girlfriend, because of the moment of surprised discovery on the schoolbus eight and a half years ago when I was in love for the first time.

[And with that, folks, I'm off! I'm leaving in about half an hour and will be back on Friday -- I'm spending Thursday night with [livejournal.com profile] hermionesviolin after an exciting week of Nat'l Coming Out festivities at school. As always, email will be the best way to reach me during the week! Try to get by without me, okay? <3<3, Ari]

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Date: 2006-10-10 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yhlee.livejournal.com
*cheers you on*

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Date: 2006-10-10 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com
Have I mentioned lately how awesome you are?

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Date: 2006-10-10 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raedbard.livejournal.com
I ♥ this and, of course, you. :)

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Date: 2006-10-10 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hammersickle.livejournal.com
i am under the belief that everyone is bisexual, it's just a matter of where you fall on the scale.

like:

[--------------------------------*-----]
straight..............................gay

is you.


[--------------*-----------------------]
straight..............................gay

is me.


i don't think that anyone ever falls exactly on either end.

but duh, of course i'd consider you a lesbian before i'd consider you some silly bisexual. ugh, i hate that term, really. it has such a terrible stigma from being overused by "experimenting" slutty college girls. =*( i don't really like even identifying myself as bisexual, 'cause it just sounds like i'm calling myself something i'm not. i just like people. damnit.

either way, i'm proud of you and i love you, and i really miss talking to you.

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Date: 2006-10-10 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attaining.livejournal.com
As a bisexual, I'm kind of offended.

"Lesbian" and "gay" still have such terrible stigma from rampant negative use by the homophobic (if they didn't, we wouldn't need a National Coming Out Day). When bisexuals themselves are afraid to use the term because of the stigma given to it by others, even among an accepting group, it makes me really sad. We take back horrible words like "dyke" and "faggot" but we're still so afraid to identify as bisexual, because bisexuals are "not real" or "whorish" or "fence-sitters." I often find bisexuals are the least comfortable coming out amongst gays and lesbians and that's just wrong. To be an outcast among outcasts, how on earth is that an easier way to live?

I'm sorry, Ari, this probably isn't the place for this. I just become sad when I see people afraid of words.

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Date: 2006-10-10 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hammersickle.livejournal.com
please don't be offended.

i'm not afraid of words. don't get me wrong here. if someone asks me if i am gay or straight, i respond "both". i don't feel the need to reclaim the term "bisexual", because i'm not even bisexual. pansexual, maybe. not-aware-of-gender-assignment-whatsoever-sexual. i don't feel like an outcast. i feel comfortable in my choices and my life. i am happy not calling myself a bisexual. i don't need a defining term to be happy. i'll march in any parade alongside all my dyke and faggot friends, with a smile and without a title.

oh ari, i'm sorry for cluttering up your lj with posts so reminiscient of qt.

oh look, a wave of nostalgia...

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Date: 2006-10-10 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attaining.livejournal.com
If you are happy without terms, I totally respect that. I agree the term doesn't really fit 100% for people who are gender blind in their love. I was just confused because you referred to everyone as bisexual and went on to say you hate the term because of slutty college girls who overuse it. It seemed like you were saying "lesbian" is a legitimate term while "bisexual" is, well, silly. That's just where I was coming from.

But you meant no offense, and I obviously misinterpreted your meaning, so you are totally right, and I apologize. It wasn't cool of me to bring it up in Ari's journal to begin with.

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Date: 2006-10-10 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attaining.livejournal.com
Aww, go you, sweets! Be proud of yourself. :)

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Date: 2006-10-10 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alixtii.livejournal.com
Yay! Thank you for sharing this day (obviously v. important to you) with us, Ari, and letting us stand virtually at your side. As someone with plenty of privilege to spare, let me say that I admire the way that you live your principles in the face of adversity every day of the year.

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Date: 2006-10-10 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thousandpages.livejournal.com
See? This is why you are SO totally my hero. No *really*.

Also, you r0x0rz.

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Date: 2006-10-10 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laynamarya.livejournal.com
Dude, is it today or tomorrow?

I'm confused.

But not about my sexuality, or yours! Hooray!

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Date: 2006-10-11 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
It is October 11 (tomorrow), but Ari will be away from LJ that day, so she posted pre-emptively.

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Date: 2006-10-11 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
I find your resistance to identifying as bisexual interesting because I always feel like it would be so much easier to come/be "out" if I were all-the-way lesbian and also that bisexuality is so often/easily elided and misunderstood. No disrespect intended to your decision, obviously, just musing -- and my sexuality is obviously v. different than yours, so it makes far more sense for me to be really attached to identifying as bisexual (or something with a similar meaning, as I'm sure you're aware of my problematics with that specific term) as opposed to how your history/experiences/desires inform your relationship with that identity. [Why can't I babble on at length like this in actual school papers? I thought about also talking about how my relationship with identifying as "dyke" or "femme" are different from yours -- short version: they don't much feel like appropriate identities for me personally -- but really, how much navel-gazing do you really need from me? And definitely there's stuff that you say that resonates with me. And of course I Affirm and Validate you regardless of our similarities or differences on these or other matters :) ]

You're gonna get all sticky, hugging my brain :)

Date: 2006-10-18 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
The idea of ID-ing as "femme" to balance IDing as "butch" definitely makes sense.

Personally, I'm not usually attracted to traditionally-butch-looking women, but regardless of the appearance of the person I'm attracted to, I never feel any desire to act/appear/whatever either butch or femme in relation to them; I just want to get to BE in relation to them.

I would be interested in hearing more about connecting butch/femme and dom/sub since they're not at all connected in my brain (though obviously you don't have to share in a public post).

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Date: 2006-10-14 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3708.livejournal.com
i no longer identify as bisexual, either! for me, it is because i do not remotely believe in the gender binary, and the word "bisexual" inherently connotes the concept of two sexes, a connotation i believe is misleading.

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Date: 2006-10-18 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
My primary problem with identifying as "bisexual" is that it implies an exact 50/50 split (somewhat ironic given that my desires etc. are in fact split about evenly) but my second concern is with the implication of a gender binary without allowance for anyone outside of that.

However, while my personally preferred ID is "queer," I often identify as "bisexual" esp. when coming out to people, because it pithily conveys that I like male type persons as well as female type persons. (That one or the other of those aspects of how I engage with the world's host of pretty is usually being elided in any given situation frustrates me much.)

So I'm impressed by your flat-our rejection of the term "bisexual" and am curious as to how that has worked out for you.

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Date: 2006-10-21 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3708.livejournal.com
With mixed results!

I am using polysexual (the "poly" meaning "multiple" personally satisfies my need to acknowledge a broader gender spectrum), which elicits very mixed responses. The gay community I've encountered - namely, the one at Wellesley, because I don't know many communities outside of the single-sex college environment that's so openly queer - tends to be very wary of someone who in their eyes conceivably "not gay." I had this problem when I identified as bisexual, especially because I'm dating a man: the "but wait, you can't be a REAL queer" response. This response is elicited occasionally again when I say "polysexual," because those who are inclined to believe that I'm just saying I'm gay to get laid or be known on campus are further inclined to believe that "polysexual" implies "willing to hump anything that walks." Which is, in my opinion, a reaction that is frequently aimed, in many environments, towards female sexuality in general.

Although, I've found this attitude has decreased substantially, but I believe that it may only be in relation to me because, having been there for a few years now, people have more or less realized that a) yes, I am still actually gay, and b) no, I'm not just saying so to be socially accepted on an openly lgbt campus. A freshman girl I know is going through the exact same thing I did when I first started. In fact, in retrospect, I haven't gotten a single skeptical look all year, although there were a couple eyebrows which quickly went down when I came out as polysexual this NCOD.

Which brings me to the third point: I have many, many friends who are either transgendered, transsexual or questioning, and their flat-out support and enthusiasm for the overall goal of looking at gender in a broader way than it has been looked at for so many years. As a result, there have been precious few on-campus snarkings about my identity, because people are beginning to understand that frankly, the issue stretches beyond what happens in on-campus bedrooms.

And this entire question is frustratingly Wellesley-centric, because outside of Wellesley I'm not out to any large community, but rather to single individuals. Those individuals are people who know me really well, and understand my perspective on gender and sexuality, and I haven't gotten a single negative response from them.

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Date: 2006-10-23 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
Having been introduced to polyamory [er, the concept, not personal praxis], I'm hesitatant to use "polysexual" because I'm so used to hearing "poly" and thinking "polyamorous." It makes a lot of sense as an alternative to "bisexual," though.

I wasn't really active in the queer community at Smith, so my only experience with being/coming "out" is with individuals.

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Date: 2006-10-23 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
I've heard "pansexual" before, though without any context, so I don't know what its general intended meaning is. "Polysexual" and "omnisexual" are new to me (as is "etcsexual," of course).

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Date: 2006-10-23 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
I was semi-active with Tangent (the trans org at Smith) my junior year and generally fairly aware of the trans populace most years, though I wasn't attracted to any of them. I think I'd been introduced to the concept of genderqueer/genderfuck via zines in high school.

"Bisexual" accurately encapsulates my historical and current desires, but for the reasons listed upthread I prefer "queer."

["Polygnous"?]

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Date: 2006-10-23 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
I thought "polygymous" ["polygamous"] and "polyandrous" were the multiple-spouse words (multiple wives and multiple husbands, respectively), which left me looking at polygynous and thinking "... polygons?"

I was in I think high school when I blew through the MLN catalog's GLBT offerings. There was and is very little trans lit, though, so it was mostly just something I included in the acronym without thinking about it much or understanding it much. It's still the concept I have the hardest time grokking. ("The Naked I: Monologues from Beyond the Gender Binary" is made of awesome, though. It's in the style of Eve Ensler's "Vagina Monlogues" and was a Smithie's senior project my... sophomore year I think. It really helped me grok it and has been performed various places since, which makes me so incredibly happy.)

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Date: 2006-10-23 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3708.livejournal.com
Perhaps my affinity for polysexual has to do with my identity as polyamorous, as well? Hm. Something to ponder!

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Date: 2006-10-23 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3708.livejournal.com
Seriously.

... Seriously.

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Date: 2006-10-23 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3708.livejournal.com
"I wasn't really active in the queer community at Smith, so my only experience with being/coming "out" is with individuals."

Similarly -- which caused a lot of my issues with the community at large itself, which in turn I was only aware of through individuals, because oddly enough even though I live off campus and am not really active in the gay community, I found (and still sometimes find) myself dragged into the communal drama through the wellesley women I do know well.

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Date: 2006-10-23 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
I felt like at Smith there wasn't so much a queer "community" so much as a good third of the population was queer, so there were just assorted social pockets, some more queer than others. Thusly, my drama awareness was primarily limited to the people who lived in my house (Smith's word for dorm).

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