on that CJ/Tara I mentioned?

[wisdomeagle]

I was right. Ridiculous. But also oh-so-hot. Gah. I want to curl up in them.

"S-sorry. It was that thing, where I think I'm saying the words, but they're actually still in my head."

"I usually do the same thing in reverse." When CJ smiles like that, like she and her words are worth nothing, Tara can't argue, can't think about why they should be together, why they shouldn't, what will happen when CJ goes back to Washington -- she just needs to let her know that it's okay now, that she's safe.

"I love you," she whispers, like that was the question CJ asked. "You have no idea how much, do you?"


Q: So, Ari, you've just crafted another crossover pairing to cater exactly to your kink because neither West Wing nor BtVS has the appropriate characters?
A: Exactly.

Lalalala. But look at her! *points to icon* She's all shy and sad and lonely; she lived her life in shadows, never the sun on her face! And then she went to UC-SunnydaleLA and the President's press secretary, who is a very successful graduate, was there speaking to alumni and maybe to some current students; Tara is a freshman or sophomore during Bartlet's second or third year in office, and Tara meets CJ and, and, and *omgsex*. And CJ is wonderful and powerful and has words, words, words at her disposal and Tara is tongue-tied and stuttery but CJ is so *broken* and Tara can see that and wants nothing else in the world but to let her know how wonderful she is, and, and, and -- *implodes*

Wow. It appears that Tara's secret kink is CJ. And I was right. It did tend to incriminate me.

By the way? CJ's name -- "CJ" or "C.J."?

*goes back to trying not to MarySue Tara too much, though thinks this is a lost cause*

ETA: Recently read "Entropy" fic dealing with how Tara was teh_hotness in the leather jacket? And Willow was like dude, Tara has never BEEN this hot. Anyone know where I might've read it? It was just a wee ficlet.

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[malnpudl.livejournal.com]

By the way? CJ's name -- "CJ" or "C.J."?

Well... it's really Claudia Jean, if that helps any.

And you bring the good crack. :-)

[wisdomeagle]

Yep, I know. (And have we mentioned that I have a serious name!kink when it comes to a) middle names and b) names that are "Jeane" or variations? Cos, dude.) Was wondering if there was a fannish convention -- the captions render it "C.J." But then again, I went by RE online for many years months, and never spelled it with periods. Huh. Anyhow, yay, crack! (Thank you yet again.)

[sangerin.livejournal.com]

I say "CJ", but that's an "Australians don't use periods after initials" thing.

[hermionesviolin.livejournal.com]

Recently read "Entropy" fic dealing with how Tara was teh_hotness in the leather jacket? And Willow was like dude, Tara has never BEEN this hot. Anyone know where I might've read it? It was just a wee ficlet.

No idea, but mmmm... leather jacket. Leather squicked me since before I was a vegetarian, but they look so hot. *makes note for possible inclusion in Giles/Tara fic*

Also: you went to a women's college and you say "freshman"?

Oh, and this post makes me think I would really like CJ. My instinct is always that I would hate West Wing, though. Thoughts? (Though with MLN freezing AV requests plus this whole job thing, I'm not likely to be starting a new fandom anytime soon.)

[wisdomeagle]

Also: you went to a women's college and you say "freshman"?

Yep. MBC wasn't the most *liberal* of the women's colleges...

Thoughts?

Er! In the fit of new fandom glee, I'm convinced *everyone* would like WW, but I'm not sure. I was really hesistant about getting into it because, being totally apolitical, I thought I'd be bored, but I most decidedly am not. This would not be your issue, I imagine... um, the politics on WW are very decidedly Deomcrat and leftist, but countering points of view do show up from time to time. As a pretty strong leftist myself, I feel myself rarely offended or at odds with the senior staffers, but you might. It is a very, very intelligent show -- what about it makes you think you might hate it? (So I can speak that to specifically.)

[hermionesviolin.livejournal.com]

Yep. MBC wasn't the most *liberal* of the women's colleges...

That was my guess, but since I didn't remember you ever saying anything in particular one way or the other I didn't wanna assume.

what about it makes you think you might hate it

See your statement "the politics on WW are very decidedly Deomcrat and leftist" :)

I've heard it's a very well-written show, and the fact that they have a character who's a Smithie Republican makes me wanna watch it like whoa. But my gut instinct (which could of course be wholly wrong, conditioned as I am by 4 years in a raging leftist bubble) is that they are gonna drive me up a wall.

[wisdomeagle]

Well, at least I guessed right... Ainsley is a Smithie? I didn't know that.

It occurs to me that the disingenuity of having to say things they disagree with because of political necessity might also drive you crazy, and it's a pretty major theme. Umm... like I said, it seems to me like the discussions actually happen about all these issues and while the senior staffers are decidedly unswerving on some of the basic issues, many of the people who circle around them are more moderate?

Also? CJ is hot. Which, really, is reason enough for me to watch.

[hermionesviolin.livejournal.com]

I feel like it got mentioned just last year or something. Smithies were obviously ambivalent about the matter.

It occurs to me that the disingenuity of having to say things they disagree with because of political necessity might also drive you crazy, and it's a pretty major theme.

Okay, *that* would drive me up a wall. It's gutwrenching enough watching lawyer shows/movies where defense attornies have to summon up the best defense they can for people they know/suspect are guilty, but that's almost an entirely different ballgame from lying for political necessity.

Discussion about issues is good. And depending on which issues are the major ones and how they're articulated, they may or may not drive me up a wall. I just have this instinct that watching liberal platforms being presented as the goodtruewaylightwhatever will drive me up a wall much as it did to watch the same at Smith.

And dude, it's me. Hotness is so not gonna be able to override that for me. (And looking at Wikipedia, my instinct is that Ainsley is hotter than CJ, which would make me laugh were it to be true of my impression.)

[wisdomeagle]

Mention actually happened to be in S2. Ainsley is going to Smith to talk about the ERA (she's anti) and Sam goes, dude, they'll hate you.

Ainsley: I'm a straight Republican from South Carolina. They already hate me.

Okay, *that* would drive me up a wall. It's gutwrenching enough watching lawyer shows/movies where defense attornies have to summon up the best defense they can for people they know/suspect are guilty, but that's almost an entirely different ballgame from lying for political necessity.

Yeah. I'm feeling like it's an amazing show and you should watch *any*way? But I definitely see how you could have serious problems with, um, everything.

And dude, it's me. Hotness is so not gonna be able to override that for me. (And looking at Wikipedia, my instinct is that Ainsley is hotter than CJ, which would make me laugh were it to be true of my impression.)

Heeeee. Oh, I totally know that very few people are as totally and completely shallow as I am. And at some point I need to make a post about pretty vs. sexy and why CJ just kinks me so incredibly hard even though I wouldn't even describe her as all that aesthetically appealing, but I'm not sure I have the right words to articulate this concept.

[hermionesviolin.livejournal.com]

I'm feeling like it's an amazing show and you should watch *any*way? But I definitely see how you could have serious problems with, um, everything.

Understood. And I appreciate that you get where I'm coming from.

I suspect once the show is off the air and all the seasons are on DVD (so that I could watch all of it if I decided I wanted to) I'll give it a shot.

And I remember from as far back as high school, conversations about finding people attractive because of who they are even though taken out of context they might not seem physically attractive, so I can understand CJ kinking hard despite objectively being not particularly physically attractive.

[thelastgoodname.livejournal.com]

I hate to be a canon whore — wait, no, this time it's okay, because this piece of information is important: CJ went to Cal, not UCLA.

That's the University of California at Berkeley, in Berkeley, not the University of California at Los Angeles in Westswood (and she even says, "Go Bears!" in the episode where we find this out; poor Sam only went to Princeton, and thinks his Tigers could beat the Bears. Poor deluded Sam).

The reason this is important is because I went to Cal, and if CJ had come back to Cal to speak on her successes, all of us babydykes would have spontaneously combusted — or orgasmed, I'm not sure which.

[wisdomeagle]

Dammit, and *fret*. I thought... dammit.

Don't fret about being a canon whore; canon is very, very important, and I was just being stupid. *headdesks*

[wisdomeagle]

But wait, okay -- so she did go to a UC? UC at Berkeley? Because that's not so bad. I know vaguely more about Berkeley than I do about LA (everything I learned about LA I learned from AtS). *is slightly less puzzled now*

[thelastgoodname.livejournal.com]

Yeah, they're both part of the University of California system (9 schools, including the mythological 10th school Sunnydale).

[More than you ever wanted to know: there's Cal (where CJ and I went, although not at the same time, sob, sob), UCLA, UC San Diego, UC San Francisco (graduate schools only), UC Irvine, UC Riverside, UC Santa Cruz, UC Davis, and UC Santa Barbara. Trivia: the only schools that aren't within sight of the ocean are Irvine, Riverside, and Davis (and Sunnydale, maybe. I've never been very sure of the geography of Sunnydale...).]