in which Ari gets right wanky
Jan. 27th, 2004 10:05 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
wisdomeagleDear fandom,
I believe that it is every fan's right to be as spoiled as the Idiots in Charge permit hir to be. That it is every fan's right to seek out spoilerish pictures, interviews, commentaries, episode summaries, and previews if ze desires. That it is every fan's right to discuss these pictures, interviews, commentaries, and so forth with whomsoever ze wants, provided those fen also desire to be spoiled.
I also believe that I have a right to remain as unspoiled as reasonably possible given that I participate in the fandom. I devote a fair amount of energy to remaining unspoiled. I avert my eyes and cover my ears when previews for episodes I haven't seen show on the Sci-Fi channel. I avert my eyes from spoilerish pictures and episode summaries on stargates.tk. I studiously avoid clicking behind cut-tags clearly labeled as having spoilers for episodes I have not seen. I do not read fic with spoiler warnings.
Now, with all this effort, you'd think I managed to remain unspoiled, wouldn't you? Given that I have been spoiler-free since approximately the time "Fallen" aired? Only, before I watched the episodes, I knew:
- that Bill Lee survived "Evolution part 2"
- that there was going to be a Jack/Sam kiss, and also that it would occur during "Grace."
- that "Grace" was a Sam-centric episode
- that Jonas would return, and that it would happen during "Fallout."
- that Sam would get a boyfriend, and it would happen during "Chimera."
I also know (and please, don't correct me if I'm wrong)
- that Janet is going to die during "Heroes."
- that there will be some extreme Sam/Daniel shippiness (a kiss?), and it will happen during "Resurrection."
- that Jack will get a promotion
- that "Resurrection" features a new Goa'uld and is thus most likely a heavy action/adventure episode
- the names of 6 of the remaining 7 unaired eps: "Death Knell," "Heroes part 1" "Heroes part 2" "Inauguration," "Resurrection," & "The Lost City."
-ETA Feb 4 2004: That a new super villain will be introduced in the season finale.
I also know that "The Lost City" will probably feature the Lost City arc, but I'll let the fandom off the hook for that one, since it took my amazing powers of deduction to figure it out.
How do I know this? Well, it's a funny thing. I haven't always been spoiler-free, and some of these spoilers have been floating around for a long, long time (like the Black Widow Carter episode and Janet's death.) I've been doing my best to forget them, but it's difficult when, well, one is bombarded with spoilers from every corner of the fandom.
When I see things on Area52 like:
Pairing: Sam/Janet
Spoilers: "Heroes"
Warnings: Character death
I have difficulty not putting the pieces together, you know? When I say I want to remain spoiler-free, I mean it, dammit!
Okay. See, I promised myself, fic and vids, fic and vids. But I still manage to get spoiled on fic and vid archives. And that just bothers me.
I blame TV Guide and my own damnable curiousity for some of the spoilers I have.
And then, then there's my LJ friends' list. Which is why I'm posting this in the first place.
See, I love you guys. I like reading your thoughts on episodes, pairings, and canon. I like the icons you make, the fic you write, and the feedback you give. I love the Stargate fen on my flist, and that's why I friended you. I like debating canon with you; I like having an audience for my fic; I like having people who understand my fannish existence.
But dammit, you people are awful about spoilers. Okay, some of them I got from other people's LJs in perusing LJ... but isn't there such a thing as spoiler etiquette?
Do you realize that you aren't putting the spoiler tags up for people who want to be spoiled? You're putting them up for, um, me (and any other spoiler virgins, but it's my current opinion that there aren't any.) And because of that, I feel as if I should have some say in the way that spoilers are labeled.
And "Squee! squee! squee! Sam/Daniel! Sam/Daniel! ::cut-tag::" is not my idea of an appropriate spoiler warning. Because I step away from it knowing more about S7 than I did before I read it. And that is exactly what I'm trying to avoid.
Now, knowing episode titles appears to be a necessary evil, given that there should be some way to warn me not to click behind the cut tag. But other than that, before you post something that I can access without clicking behind a clearly marked spoiler warning (or highlighting a clearly marked spoiler written in white) think about this:
Will Ari (or someone else even more spoiler virginal than Ari?) know more about S7 after reading this than she did before?
If yes, lj-cut!
Wrong: "I really liked Chimera! I thought Sam was great! ::lj-cut::"
Why? Because I now know that friend x (whose taste in episodes I know something about) liked Chimera, and that Sam was important in the episode.
Wrong: "I wrote this fic about Heroes, only with a happy ending! ::lj-cut::"
Why? Because I now know that Heroes doesn't end happily.
Wrong: "Sam/Daniel? Ewwww. ::lj cut text equals "Stargate spoilers"::"
Why? Because I now know that there are Sam/Daniel-positive spoilers out there!
Wrong: "I'm not watching S8."
Why: I know that there's something so wrong with S8 that half my flist has threatened not to watch it.
Okay. ::breathes::
I'm sorry. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but this has been brewing for a long, long time, and I know it's not going to get any better if I don't say anything, and... see, I like reading my flist. I don't want to have to tread carefully out of fear that I'll inadvertently get spoiled.
Additionally: why do people assume that I do want to get spoiled? When I asked after Evolution part 1 whether people thought Dr. Lee would survive, someone informed me that she thought he would, as spoilerish pics from the end of the episode showed him still alive.
::headdesk::
There? See how easy that was? See how I did that? See how I didn't include any information in my current mood, or in my icon, or in my subject line, or in the commentary above and below the cut-tag, that might inform those who wish to remain unspoiled of things about the unaired S7 episodes which they did not already know?
Love and naked Daniels,
snarky!Ari
I believe that it is every fan's right to be as spoiled as the Idiots in Charge permit hir to be. That it is every fan's right to seek out spoilerish pictures, interviews, commentaries, episode summaries, and previews if ze desires. That it is every fan's right to discuss these pictures, interviews, commentaries, and so forth with whomsoever ze wants, provided those fen also desire to be spoiled.
I also believe that I have a right to remain as unspoiled as reasonably possible given that I participate in the fandom. I devote a fair amount of energy to remaining unspoiled. I avert my eyes and cover my ears when previews for episodes I haven't seen show on the Sci-Fi channel. I avert my eyes from spoilerish pictures and episode summaries on stargates.tk. I studiously avoid clicking behind cut-tags clearly labeled as having spoilers for episodes I have not seen. I do not read fic with spoiler warnings.
Now, with all this effort, you'd think I managed to remain unspoiled, wouldn't you? Given that I have been spoiler-free since approximately the time "Fallen" aired? Only, before I watched the episodes, I knew:
- that Bill Lee survived "Evolution part 2"
- that there was going to be a Jack/Sam kiss, and also that it would occur during "Grace."
- that "Grace" was a Sam-centric episode
- that Jonas would return, and that it would happen during "Fallout."
- that Sam would get a boyfriend, and it would happen during "Chimera."
I also know (and please, don't correct me if I'm wrong)
- that Janet is going to die during "Heroes."
- that there will be some extreme Sam/Daniel shippiness (a kiss?), and it will happen during "Resurrection."
- that Jack will get a promotion
- that "Resurrection" features a new Goa'uld and is thus most likely a heavy action/adventure episode
- the names of 6 of the remaining 7 unaired eps: "Death Knell," "Heroes part 1" "Heroes part 2" "Inauguration," "Resurrection," & "The Lost City."
-ETA Feb 4 2004: That a new super villain will be introduced in the season finale.
I also know that "The Lost City" will probably feature the Lost City arc, but I'll let the fandom off the hook for that one, since it took my amazing powers of deduction to figure it out.
How do I know this? Well, it's a funny thing. I haven't always been spoiler-free, and some of these spoilers have been floating around for a long, long time (like the Black Widow Carter episode and Janet's death.) I've been doing my best to forget them, but it's difficult when, well, one is bombarded with spoilers from every corner of the fandom.
When I see things on Area52 like:
Pairing: Sam/Janet
Spoilers: "Heroes"
Warnings: Character death
I have difficulty not putting the pieces together, you know? When I say I want to remain spoiler-free, I mean it, dammit!
Okay. See, I promised myself, fic and vids, fic and vids. But I still manage to get spoiled on fic and vid archives. And that just bothers me.
I blame TV Guide and my own damnable curiousity for some of the spoilers I have.
And then, then there's my LJ friends' list. Which is why I'm posting this in the first place.
See, I love you guys. I like reading your thoughts on episodes, pairings, and canon. I like the icons you make, the fic you write, and the feedback you give. I love the Stargate fen on my flist, and that's why I friended you. I like debating canon with you; I like having an audience for my fic; I like having people who understand my fannish existence.
But dammit, you people are awful about spoilers. Okay, some of them I got from other people's LJs in perusing LJ... but isn't there such a thing as spoiler etiquette?
Do you realize that you aren't putting the spoiler tags up for people who want to be spoiled? You're putting them up for, um, me (and any other spoiler virgins, but it's my current opinion that there aren't any.) And because of that, I feel as if I should have some say in the way that spoilers are labeled.
And "Squee! squee! squee! Sam/Daniel! Sam/Daniel! ::cut-tag::" is not my idea of an appropriate spoiler warning. Because I step away from it knowing more about S7 than I did before I read it. And that is exactly what I'm trying to avoid.
Now, knowing episode titles appears to be a necessary evil, given that there should be some way to warn me not to click behind the cut tag. But other than that, before you post something that I can access without clicking behind a clearly marked spoiler warning (or highlighting a clearly marked spoiler written in white) think about this:
Will Ari (or someone else even more spoiler virginal than Ari?) know more about S7 after reading this than she did before?
If yes, lj-cut!
Wrong: "I really liked Chimera! I thought Sam was great! ::lj-cut::"
Why? Because I now know that friend x (whose taste in episodes I know something about) liked Chimera, and that Sam was important in the episode.
Wrong: "I wrote this fic about Heroes, only with a happy ending! ::lj-cut::"
Why? Because I now know that Heroes doesn't end happily.
Wrong: "Sam/Daniel? Ewwww. ::lj cut text equals "Stargate spoilers"::"
Why? Because I now know that there are Sam/Daniel-positive spoilers out there!
Wrong: "I'm not watching S8."
Why: I know that there's something so wrong with S8 that half my flist has threatened not to watch it.
Okay. ::breathes::
I'm sorry. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but this has been brewing for a long, long time, and I know it's not going to get any better if I don't say anything, and... see, I like reading my flist. I don't want to have to tread carefully out of fear that I'll inadvertently get spoiled.
Additionally: why do people assume that I do want to get spoiled? When I asked after Evolution part 1 whether people thought Dr. Lee would survive, someone informed me that she thought he would, as spoilerish pics from the end of the episode showed him still alive.
::headdesk::
There? See how easy that was? See how I did that? See how I didn't include any information in my current mood, or in my icon, or in my subject line, or in the commentary above and below the cut-tag, that might inform those who wish to remain unspoiled of things about the unaired S7 episodes which they did not already know?
Love and naked Daniels,
snarky!Ari
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Date: 2004-01-27 07:17 pm (UTC)*thinks that might be fun to do anyway*
(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-27 07:20 pm (UTC)*imagines flist*
Kinsey gets elected!
Kinsey doesn't get elected!
Jack dies!
Daniel dies!
Teal'c dies!
The Chevron Guy dies!
Jack/Sam becomes canon!
Jack/Teal'c becomes canon!
Teal'c/Chevron Guy becomes canon!
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Date: 2004-01-27 07:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-27 07:34 pm (UTC):)
(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-27 10:01 pm (UTC)I apologize if I've inadvertently spoiled you. I can assure you that I've tried to be as un-spoilish as possible, going so far as to put casting spoilers behind a cut tag, which aren't usually considered spoilers, but really probably are, in a way. And it's weird. I've never really thought about the moods being a spoiler, but then again, my moods aren't always directly related to the episode talk. And most of the time it's something like 'spoilers for Evolution 2' on the cut tag, and I'm not sure how much my mood being depressed says about the actual SHOW, except that I didn't like the ep.
I can see how something like: Sam/Daniel! Sam/Daniel spoilers behind the cut! -- and then a moood like: excited! Happy! or Thrilled! might give something away, or at least let you know it's good spoilers, though. And although a part of me is just like, but it's not spoilers!, another realizes that if you're strictly no spoilers, fandom has to totally drive you crazy.
::hugs you:: Hopefully I'll think first before spoiling you --- but remember that my moods often are just my moods and aren't directly related to what's behind the spoiler cut. :)
Oh! And don't visit stargate_icons! For the love of all things holy. I love the place. I ADORE the place. But you will be spoiled. A lot of icons that are posted there have previews, and lately, they've been a bit spoil-y. My next icon post will be too. I'm such a spoiler ho. Making icons for episodes I haven't even SEEN yet. ::sighs::
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Date: 2004-01-27 10:04 pm (UTC)And don't visit stargate_icons! For the love of all things holy.
Thanks for the warning. :)
I don't think you're especially guilty in this case, except for being one of many S/D fen who caused my flist to go "squee" awhile back.
::hugs::