vmars movie for the very first time
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wisdomeagle[content notes: If you don't recall or never knew, my primary Veronica Mars feels are about shipping Keith/Veronica in a consensual, incestuous way. I've also never particularly cared for Logan/Veronica as a ship, or for Logan as a character, so there's that. (my feelings may or may not have softened on that, but the Marcest feels have not diminished. at all.) So there is a lot of unabashed cesty squealing. It comes at the end, after a few more general thoughts. This has been your warning.]
Seriously how is it that the theme song for this show is now 100x more appropriate and so there are all these nostalgia feels along with everything else.
I went to a matinee on the second Friday it was open. There were three people in the theatre. There were definitely callbacks that I found funnier than the other two did, but for the most part it was fine being in the theatre with them. I did not embarrass myself by squealing at the wrong parts.
I was disappointed that Mac and Wallace were mostly filler.
Veronica asking Wallace for a student's file. <3<3<3 (this was the part that made me and no one else laugh).
Neptune High, built on a Hellmouth. Headcanon accepted.
I very much loved the Van Clemmons cameo. "How did this happen? -- Never mind."
So I was never a very big fan of Logan/Veronica, and Logan was on my "please diaf" list (and basically still is) but my feelings toward both did indeed soften. I felt more sympathy with Logan's admittedly extremely tragic woobiedom than I did when he was expressing that pain primarily through being an obnoxious rich boy. And, um, about Logan/Veronica, while I still had no feels at their kissing... by virtue of 9 years passing, they accidentally became one of my favorite shipping tropes, to wit, high school sweethearts reunited after the passage of time. So that happened. It also felt like the relationship didn't detract from the importance of the other people in Veronica's life (by which I mean Mac and Wallace, as well as, obviously, Keith).
WEEVIL. MARRIED. BABY. DOMESTICATED. WEEVIL. SO MANY HEARTHANDS SERIOUSLY.
Okay, so.
KEITHVERONICA SO MUCH SHIP. VERY SHIP MUCH OTP RIGHT IN THE FEELS HERE ARE MY INARTICULATE TUMBLRY FEELS THAT I CANNOT EXPRESS OTHER THAN IN CAPSLOCK AND MEMESPEAK.
Right.
When there was the car crash, I flinched, and panicked, and worried, and had the actual train of thought that no, I know that Keith survives because someone would have warned me if he died. So... I have always been completely spoiler-avoidant and do not want to be told in advance even that there are character deaths, let alone who dies, except apparently for Keith Mars I make an exception. You know how Joss has talked about how on BtVS there was the "put Willow in danger" formula for creating suspense because she was so innocent and adorable, and then in later seasons Tara and later Dawn filled that role? That is Keith Mars for me. Put Keith in danger and I am putty in your hands, Rob Thomas.
This is not so much because I love Keith, although I really, really love Keith, but because I love Veronica and if something happened to Keith Veronica's grief would fucking break me.
Aaaaaaaah I have so many Keith/Veronica feels.
If it were distinctly possible that you would die in the next fifteen seconds and you had time to text just one person to tell them you loved them, who would you text? BOOM there it is.
Keith is the person Veronica most hates to disappoint.
You do not want to go down the path of saying things about Veronica that Keith does not appreciate.
"Who's your daddy?"
Ok, so.
But *you* haven't been destroyed by Neptune.
Sometimes love blinds us...
oh God Keith oh God.
So like.
There are lots of things in Keith + Veronica's relationship for which I use sex as the most convenient metaphor. As in, there is emotional codependency in the tv show, and Veronica functioning as a partner (emotional, business) in ways that are inappropriate for a child -- for a minor, and for a daughter -- and there are times when Keith tries really hard to set those boundaries, because he loves Veronica more than anyone else in the world and truly wants only what's best for her... except he is always ultimately unsuccessful because Veronica pushes and pushes and Keith can't help being proud of her (and being proud she's his).
And they almost made it. They almost fucking made it. With Keith sacrificing himself to the Hellmouth and letting Veronica go -- truly letting her go -- and with them settling into normal healthy father-daughter distance for a 28 year-old and their parent, and Keith wanted so, so badly for Veronica to succeed, for Veronica to ESCAPE, and... nope. World of nope because feelings/addiction/lifestyle is just too strong and so I am totally headcanoning like so hard that Veronica moves back into Keith's house. Yes she is shipping with Logan, possibly forever, but Keith is the person she loves most in the world and she is LIVING IN HIS HOUSE and
he is a lot more bitter than he was 10 years ago and I think probably very lonely and absorbing that loneliness and despair and then his bright beautiful explosive daughter has moved back in.
Ummm and every reference to Veronica's alcoholic mother yes this is why this is my favorite show this is why Veronica Mars IS MY FUCKING HERO and now she is grown up and is my age and I love her to pieces and she makes shatteringly bad decisions and ♥Veronica♥Mars.
The only substantive Keith/Veronica fic I ever finished and posted was the threesome I wrote foralixtii that one year when a straight man and a genderqueer dyke wrote each other incestuous threesome fic for Epiphany because fandom is a funny awesome place, because the rest of the things I have written fall into one or more of these categories
+Embarrassingly personal
+Embarrassingly PWP
+Gigantic epic AU that I can't actually write because "epic" is not a genre of fanfic that I have mastered or indeed even attempted.
Here are the document names of all the unposted things living in my Fannish\fanfiction\Veronica Mars folder on my computer:
[unpostable] utterly filthy porn [KeithVeronica]
[wip] !blac [KeithVeronica]
[wip] cuddly cest [KeithVeronica]
[wip] Menfolk+Vittles [Veronica gen]
[wip] Nine Going On Thirty [KeithVeronica]
[wip] poem [KeithVeronica]
[wip] poemish [KeithVeronica]
[wip] Veronica Kane [KeithVeronica]
[wip] Veronica Keith Mac Lauren etc
[wip] yet more random Marscest
.... um.
But I want to crawlinsidetheirloveanddie and write ALL THE THINGS and
oh right, in the "wings yes wings" document where I was theoretically writing wingfic manymany years ago there is possibly a story where Keith and Veronica have an incestbaby and it has wings because I am the most absurd and ridiculous human being.
So I think I am going to break out my DVDs, and if anyone else in the world is interested in this pairing and wants to squeal with me about it or talk about plotbunnies or anything, now would be the time.
Now that I have a literal cat in my life and I'm so far removed from current fandom of any kind, it feels even more absurd that cat anecdotes etc. go under flock/access and this sh-t is public, but that's the precedent, so... there it is.
Seriously how is it that the theme song for this show is now 100x more appropriate and so there are all these nostalgia feels along with everything else.
I went to a matinee on the second Friday it was open. There were three people in the theatre. There were definitely callbacks that I found funnier than the other two did, but for the most part it was fine being in the theatre with them. I did not embarrass myself by squealing at the wrong parts.
I was disappointed that Mac and Wallace were mostly filler.
Veronica asking Wallace for a student's file. <3<3<3 (this was the part that made me and no one else laugh).
Neptune High, built on a Hellmouth. Headcanon accepted.
I very much loved the Van Clemmons cameo. "How did this happen? -- Never mind."
So I was never a very big fan of Logan/Veronica, and Logan was on my "please diaf" list (and basically still is) but my feelings toward both did indeed soften. I felt more sympathy with Logan's admittedly extremely tragic woobiedom than I did when he was expressing that pain primarily through being an obnoxious rich boy. And, um, about Logan/Veronica, while I still had no feels at their kissing... by virtue of 9 years passing, they accidentally became one of my favorite shipping tropes, to wit, high school sweethearts reunited after the passage of time. So that happened. It also felt like the relationship didn't detract from the importance of the other people in Veronica's life (by which I mean Mac and Wallace, as well as, obviously, Keith).
WEEVIL. MARRIED. BABY. DOMESTICATED. WEEVIL. SO MANY HEARTHANDS SERIOUSLY.
Okay, so.
KEITHVERONICA SO MUCH SHIP. VERY SHIP MUCH OTP RIGHT IN THE FEELS HERE ARE MY INARTICULATE TUMBLRY FEELS THAT I CANNOT EXPRESS OTHER THAN IN CAPSLOCK AND MEMESPEAK.
Right.
When there was the car crash, I flinched, and panicked, and worried, and had the actual train of thought that no, I know that Keith survives because someone would have warned me if he died. So... I have always been completely spoiler-avoidant and do not want to be told in advance even that there are character deaths, let alone who dies, except apparently for Keith Mars I make an exception. You know how Joss has talked about how on BtVS there was the "put Willow in danger" formula for creating suspense because she was so innocent and adorable, and then in later seasons Tara and later Dawn filled that role? That is Keith Mars for me. Put Keith in danger and I am putty in your hands, Rob Thomas.
This is not so much because I love Keith, although I really, really love Keith, but because I love Veronica and if something happened to Keith Veronica's grief would fucking break me.
Aaaaaaaah I have so many Keith/Veronica feels.
If it were distinctly possible that you would die in the next fifteen seconds and you had time to text just one person to tell them you loved them, who would you text? BOOM there it is.
Keith is the person Veronica most hates to disappoint.
You do not want to go down the path of saying things about Veronica that Keith does not appreciate.
"Who's your daddy?"
Ok, so.
But *you* haven't been destroyed by Neptune.
Sometimes love blinds us...
oh God Keith oh God.
So like.
There are lots of things in Keith + Veronica's relationship for which I use sex as the most convenient metaphor. As in, there is emotional codependency in the tv show, and Veronica functioning as a partner (emotional, business) in ways that are inappropriate for a child -- for a minor, and for a daughter -- and there are times when Keith tries really hard to set those boundaries, because he loves Veronica more than anyone else in the world and truly wants only what's best for her... except he is always ultimately unsuccessful because Veronica pushes and pushes and Keith can't help being proud of her (and being proud she's his).
And they almost made it. They almost fucking made it. With Keith sacrificing himself to the Hellmouth and letting Veronica go -- truly letting her go -- and with them settling into normal healthy father-daughter distance for a 28 year-old and their parent, and Keith wanted so, so badly for Veronica to succeed, for Veronica to ESCAPE, and... nope. World of nope because feelings/addiction/lifestyle is just too strong and so I am totally headcanoning like so hard that Veronica moves back into Keith's house. Yes she is shipping with Logan, possibly forever, but Keith is the person she loves most in the world and she is LIVING IN HIS HOUSE and
he is a lot more bitter than he was 10 years ago and I think probably very lonely and absorbing that loneliness and despair and then his bright beautiful explosive daughter has moved back in.
Ummm and every reference to Veronica's alcoholic mother yes this is why this is my favorite show this is why Veronica Mars IS MY FUCKING HERO and now she is grown up and is my age and I love her to pieces and she makes shatteringly bad decisions and ♥Veronica♥Mars.
The only substantive Keith/Veronica fic I ever finished and posted was the threesome I wrote for
alixtii that one year when a straight man and a genderqueer dyke wrote each other incestuous threesome fic for Epiphany because fandom is a +Embarrassingly personal
+Embarrassingly PWP
+Gigantic epic AU that I can't actually write because "epic" is not a genre of fanfic that I have mastered or indeed even attempted.
Here are the document names of all the unposted things living in my Fannish\fanfiction\Veronica Mars folder on my computer:
[unpostable] utterly filthy porn [KeithVeronica]
[wip] !blac [KeithVeronica]
[wip] cuddly cest [KeithVeronica]
[wip] Menfolk+Vittles [Veronica gen]
[wip] Nine Going On Thirty [KeithVeronica]
[wip] poem [KeithVeronica]
[wip] poemish [KeithVeronica]
[wip] Veronica Kane [KeithVeronica]
[wip] Veronica Keith Mac Lauren etc
[wip] yet more random Marscest
.... um.
But I want to crawlinsidetheirloveanddie and write ALL THE THINGS and
oh right, in the "wings yes wings" document where I was theoretically writing wingfic manymany years ago there is possibly a story where Keith and Veronica have an incestbaby and it has wings because I am the most absurd and ridiculous human being.
So I think I am going to break out my DVDs, and if anyone else in the world is interested in this pairing and wants to squeal with me about it or talk about plotbunnies or anything, now would be the time.
Now that I have a literal cat in my life and I'm so far removed from current fandom of any kind, it feels even more absurd that cat anecdotes etc. go under flock/access and this sh-t is public, but that's the precedent, so... there it is.
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Date: 2014-03-25 06:03 pm (UTC)I need to find me something with some actualfax parentcest I can crawl into. (Currently rolling around in Tommy/Polly -- aunt/nephew, which is a new thing for me! -- from Peaky Blinders, and also nnnngh Grace/Campbell nnnngh, which is not ACTUAL father/daughter but boy, does he wish it were. Both of which I love. But it's not the same thing.)